A Vision for Quantitative Biology

00:00:19.12 Rob Phillips - "A Vision for Quantitative Biology"
00:00:29.29 Greetings. My name is Rob Phillips,
00:00:32.08 and I'm a professor of applied physics at the California Institute of Technology.
00:00:35.24 This morning, what I'm going to do is talk to you about a vision
00:00:38.16 for the role of biological numeracy.
00:00:41.12 What I'd like to do is try and address the question of
00:00:44.27 how quantitative thinking has been used as a tool
00:00:47.21 to sharpen the kinds of questions we can ask about biological phenomena.
00:00:51.07 Obviously, this is a very personal view, and if somebody else were to be standing here,
00:00:57.00 then their take on this would be different.
00:00:58.22 I'm going to use, as shown here,
00:01:00.25 the image of Archimedes as the icon of the kinds of things I'm thinking about.
00:01:04.22 He's known for carrying out his calculations with a stick in the sand,
00:01:08.17 and that's going to be the level of models I'm trying to advocate for.
00:01:11.22 So the way that I want to do this is to present four or so different arguments
00:01:16.11 which are rather philosophical and motivate the use of mathematics in biology,
00:01:21.04 and then I'll turn to a few words about how it is that we can try
00:01:24.21 to develop mathematic sophistication in biological students.
00:01:28.18 So my starting point is the idea that is inspired by this book by C. P. Snow, known as
00:01:34.18 The Two Cultures, where he argued that ignorance of the second law of thermodynamics
00:01:39.07 should be viewed as tantamount to ignorance of Hamlet.
00:01:41.27 This is related, in turn, to a very commonly held view, I would say, which is that,
00:01:48.12 in order to have a functioning democracy, we need to have an educated citizenry.
00:01:52.28 James Madison summarized this as follows:
00:01:55.17 "A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it
00:01:59.29 "is but a prologue to Farce or Tragedy or perhaps both.
00:02:02.13 "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors
00:02:06.28 "must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives."
00:02:09.14 So my take on this is that, in the same way that an educated citizenry
00:02:14.18 is a part of properly functioning democracy,
00:02:17.15 I think that scientists need to have some level of fluency
00:02:21.28 with not only the methods and techniques of mathematics,
00:02:24.09 but also with the potency and the ways that mathematics can be used, as I said before,
00:02:28.25 to sharpen the kinds of questions that we can ask about different problems of all kinds.
00:02:32.23 So, the second argument that I want to make for the role of biological numeracy
00:02:37.06 is best illustrated by one of my favorite scenes from the movie Apollo 13.
00:02:39.20 What happened after the explosion on Apollo 13
00:02:41.05 â€”the astronauts were on their way to the moonâ€”
00:02:46.22 is that they had to shuttle over into the lunar landing module
00:02:49.15 in order to basically survive while they went around the moon and came back to the Earth.
00:02:54.10 All this time, obviously, the engineers in Houston, at NASA, were
00:02:59.08 busily working to bring these astronauts back alive, and they were headed by Gene Krantz.
00:03:04.04 What he had to say really was, "Let's work the problem, people."
00:03:07.21 And his notion was that he didn't care whether they were rocket scientists or engineers
00:03:11.18 or physicists or chemists or mathematicians.
00:03:13.20 All he cared is that they brought their tools to bear on solving the key problems
00:03:17.29 that were faced in bringing the astronauts back.
00:03:20.04 One of the most important of which had to do with the rising CO2 levels in the lunar module.
00:03:24.22 It was not meant to hold three people for many days, and oddly the engineers had
00:03:29.13 designed circular and square scrubbers for the command module and the lunar module.
00:03:34.27 They poured out all the ingredients on the table
00:03:37.12 â€”everything that was on the two spaceshipsâ€”
00:03:39.04 and he told the engineers, "Figure out how to put the round peg in the square hole, or vice versa."
00:03:46.10 So, my thought here is that, in the context of biology,
00:03:50.12 one of the most useful tools that we can bring to bear is a bit of mathematical argumentation.
00:03:55.06 As Darwin put it, "People with an understanding of the great leading principles of mathematics
00:03:58.27 seem to have an extra sense."
00:04:00.22 And I think that this extra sense allows us to see biological problems in different ways.
00:04:05.13 It's another toolâ€”one of many. It's not a unique tool, and it's not necessarily the best tool.
00:04:09.25 It's just another useful tool.
00:04:11.14 The next argument that I want to make has to do with a view
00:04:16.03 that was espoused by Darwin in a letter that he wrote, where he said,
00:04:18.22 "About thirty years ago, there was much talk that
00:04:21.09 "geologists ought only to observe and not theorize;
00:04:24.01 "and I well remember someone saying that at this rate
00:04:26.15 "a man might as well go into a gravel pit and count the pebbles and describe the colors.
00:04:30.14 "How odd is it that anyone should not see that
00:04:33.09 "all observation must be for or against some view to be of any service."
00:04:37.04 So my argument here is that mathematics provides us another way
00:04:41.22 of being for or against some view,
00:04:44.09 and often this way is different than one would be able to do
00:04:47.23 with purely verbal argumentation alone.
00:04:50.05 My fourth and final argument is less philosophical and has to do with the nature of biological data.
00:04:56.00 Whether we're thinking about the scale of individual bacteria or entire ecosystems,
00:05:01.01 the data is often quantitative, and this in turn demands quantitative modeling.
00:05:06.12 What I'm showing you here is an example of some data taken on the motility of bacteria
00:05:11.17 as they move towards particular chemical attractants.
00:05:14.27 The chemical attractant is added at a certain moment
00:05:16.29 then the bacteria are observed, in particular the rotation of their flagella,
00:05:21.18 and people can learn things. I'm not going to go into the details, but it's quite fascinating.
00:05:25.27 At a totally different scale, as shown at the bottom, Alfred Russel Wallace traveled
00:05:30.13 around what is now modern day Indonesia,
00:05:32.24 and in his travels, he noticed something quite peculiar.
00:05:35.21 Between the islands of Bali and Lombok,
00:05:38.02 he noticed that there was completely different flora and fauna
00:05:40.12 and this led to the elucidation of what is now known as the Wallace line
00:05:43.22 which separates these different classes of flora and fauna.
00:05:46.27 Most of us know, for example, that in Australia, there are marsupials,
00:05:51.05 and this is the kind of thing that he noticed.
00:05:53.01 In the modern hands of Robert MacArthur and E.O. Wilson,
00:05:56.04 this led to what they called the theory of island biogeography.
00:05:58.26 And one of the coolest things that you find in this book
00:06:00.26 is a simple, empirical relationship which relates species diversity to the area of islands.
00:06:07.14 They then proposed a simple mathematical equilibrium model
00:06:11.10 where they tried to balance rate of immigration, on the one hand,
00:06:14.26 and the rate of extinction on the other,
00:06:17.16 thus leading to a picture of the species-area relationship that I mentioned before.
00:06:22.09 But my main point here is just the idea that these very different scales,
00:06:26.26 very different kinds of problems both appeal to quantitative reasoning.
00:06:30.21 Of course, this idea of using quantitative analysis in biology is nothing new.
00:06:35.28 I'm saying nothing new at all.
00:06:37.18 And, there's classic examples that are very famous.
00:06:40.12 For example, the origins of classical genetics in the hands of Mendel and Morgan,
00:06:44.06 basically, by counting frequencies.
00:06:47.03 In the case of Mendel, looking at frequencies of things that we've all heard about
00:06:50.07 â€”things like smoothness of peas and colors of flowers and so onâ€”
00:06:54.15 he was able to elucidate the idea of these abstract elements of inheritance known as genes.
00:07:00.13 In the hands of Thomas Hunt Morgan and his student, Alfred Sturtevant,
00:07:03.29 they were able to actually figure out the position on the chromosome
00:07:06.25 of several different genes associated with a fruit fly.
00:07:09.20 The other example that I show you here is Hodgkin and Huxley,
00:07:12.22 who basically put together an idea of the propagation of electrical signals in cells,
00:07:18.02 which too had all sorts of interesting quantitative features
00:07:21.26 that they addressed in a quantitative fashion.
00:07:24.14 What I'm showing you here is a case study that I think is really compelling.
00:07:30.03 There's a classic video, taken by David Rogers, probably around fifty years ago
00:07:34.15 and what it shows is an individual white blood cellâ€”a neutrophilâ€”
00:07:38.15 as it hunts down a bacterium in a field of red blood cells.
00:07:42.09 And the idea that I wanted to put together here is just that,
00:07:46.00 it's often said that a picture is worth a thousand words, and this video has been,
00:07:50.20 in a certain sense, the seeds of a whole series of different research programs.
00:07:54.29 Why are people so amused and so interested in this video?
00:07:58.07 It tells many different stories, some of which can be couched in quantitative language.
00:08:03.08 To try and demonstrate that, I want to talk a little bit about bacterial chemotaxis.
00:08:08.12 So, I've already mentioned that bacteria express certain preferences.
00:08:12.04 They'll move towards attractants and from the mathematical model building perspective,
00:08:16.25 as shown here, we can take this cartoon, shown on the left column,
00:08:21.07 where what's depicted is the surface receptors that sit in the cell surface
00:08:26.02 and that actually capture the ligands which are seen as chemoattractants.
00:08:30.05 What's shown in the right column is basically a statistical calculation
00:08:34.24 of the probabilities of each of these different eventualities.
00:08:37.18 And what comes out of this is the ability to make at least a first cut at trying to
00:08:42.23 calculate how the rate of tumbling depends on the concentration of chemoattractant.
00:08:47.26 One of the things that I think is especially intriguing about this sort of quantitative bent is that
00:08:53.29 we can organize biological topics in different ways than we would
00:08:57.12 from the traditional biology point of view.
00:08:59.20 If you grab a very big molecular cell biology textbook,
00:09:03.19 you open up the subject of embryonic development
00:09:05.27 you open up the subject of bacterial chemotaxis,
00:09:08.23 they will be pages and pages apart from each other.
00:09:11.00 On the other hand, when viewed from the perspective that I'm trying to put forth here,
00:09:14.29 in both cases, we ask questions about chemical concentrations as a function of position
00:09:20.23 and then how cells actually count those concentrations in order to make decisions.
00:09:25.24 And so this proximity of topics in physical biology.
00:09:28.26 It's a different way of holding up a particular biological problem and viewing it differently.
00:09:33.18 My second example is shown here.
00:09:36.01 What's shown in the video is a dividing frog embryo.
00:09:40.20 Basically, we have a frog egg that's been fertilized,
00:09:43.14 and over time, what I want you to notice is the incredible synchrony of the cell divisions.
00:09:48.22 This is even better shown as the video goes on and we'll see three of them simultaneously.
00:09:53.14 So note that as the cells are dividing,
00:09:56.01 even the distinct embryos are dividing at this steady, rhythmic pace.
00:10:00.21 Now, the reason that I think this is amusing is that people have thought
00:10:04.01 very hard about how to write down mathematical descriptions of biological clocks.
00:10:08.01 Shown on the bottom are three different versions of genetic networks, and next to those
00:10:13.09 networks are equations, and if you look carefully, you'll see that they say things like dA/dt.
00:10:19.10 That's the rate of change of concentration of element A in the network.
00:10:23.27 And what I think is fun is that, of course,
00:10:26.09 many biological students are tortured by learning calculus at some stage in their careers.
00:10:31.17 But, at the same time, I think that if they were given a bit more motivation...
00:10:35.21 if they realized that this idea of calculating rates of changes
00:10:39.00 was going to be important to them in thinking about these amazing processes,
00:10:43.05 such as embryonic development, they might feel a better taste for learning mathematics.
00:10:48.08 And that brings me to my next point.
00:10:49.21 So, I haven't said much about how we can go about getting mathematical tools
00:10:55.20 in the hands of biological students, and I wanted to just give a few words
00:10:59.11 with the ultimate belief that I think that
00:11:01.16 nothing is so stimulating as having fantastic teachers.
00:11:04.18 But the first thing is this idea that was put forth in a book by Malcolm Gladwell called Outliers.
00:11:11.22 He elucidated what he called the ten thousand hour rule, and the basic idea is that
00:11:16.04 in order to get good at something like playing an instrument or good at soccer
00:11:19.10 or something like that, people that are really at the top of their game,
00:11:22.24 they've invested thousands and thousands of hours.
00:11:25.29 If you think about the length of a graduate student career, over the first couple of years,
00:11:30.12 let's assume that they're working 100 hours per week,
00:11:33.28 then that's going to come out to about 5,000 hours per year.
00:11:37.10 After a couple of years, they're practicing research at the very frontiers.
00:11:42.01 And so, although there's much to quibble with the presentation of Gladwell,
00:11:46.06 I think that this basic idea that in order to get good at something,
00:11:50.08 you really have to push should come as no surprise to anyone.
00:11:53.22 If you want to improvise as a jazz musician,
00:11:56.05 probably you're already very good at playing your scales.
00:11:59.08 If you want to learn how to do a slam dunk, you better know how to do a lay-up first.
00:12:02.19 I also wanted to show here that both Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Payne,
00:12:07.20 they studied Euclid's elements
00:12:09.20 â€”here, I'm showing the Pythagorean theorem in Euclid's elementsâ€”
00:12:12.18 in order to sharpen their thinking.
00:12:14.14 And I think that this kind of idea of just putting in the effort,
00:12:17.28 the elbow grease to do mathematics... there's real payoffs.
00:12:22.12 Last point is, I just wanted to call people's attention to Bio 2010,
00:12:26.10 this report put together by the national academies
00:12:28.25 where they give other ideas about how to enhance biological numeracy
00:12:33.03 in the biological curriculum.
00:12:35.05 So, I'm going to make a point here that hearkens back to what I said earlier
00:12:39.28 about our shared scientific destiny.
00:12:41.24 So the world is faced with many different challenges, and I think people are looking to scientists
00:12:46.02 to be able to try and respond to those challenges,
00:12:48.21 and one of the most important of which is climate change.
00:12:52.00 Last week, in Science magazine, there was a letter submitted
00:12:54.28 by something on the order of one hundred people
00:12:57.00 about climate change and the integrity of science.
00:12:59.11 And one of the things that's very interesting about the list of people that signed this letter
00:13:02.26 is that some large fraction of them are biologists.
00:13:06.24 And what I'm getting across here is that I have no problem with biologists signing on to
00:13:11.16 expressing a scientific opinion about something like climate change,
00:13:15.00 but at the same time, we should not forget
00:13:17.02 that behind the scenes in this whole climate change discussion
00:13:19.28 is for sure some element of mathematical model building
00:13:23.26 which is an argument in favor of this notion of mathematical literacy.
00:13:28.13 So I'm going to close with the title of one of my favorite papers
00:13:32.25 from PLoS Biology by Joel Cohen, he asks:
00:13:35.12 "Is Mathematics Biology's Next Microscope, Only Better?
00:13:40.07 "Is Biology Mathematics' Next Physics, Only Better?"
00:13:44.01 Let's think about what those two things mean.
00:13:46.09 The top one -- mathematics is biology's next microscope, only better...
00:13:49.10 He's trying to say exactly what Darwin said before,
00:13:52.16 which is that people that have mathematics in their set of tools
00:13:58.10 seem to have an extra sense.
00:14:00.08 We can sharpen the questions we ask about biological problems using mathematics.
00:14:05.06 The second pointâ€”biology is mathematics' next physics, only better...
00:14:09.18 That's merely to say that biology is bleeding over into other disciplines
00:14:14.02 in a huge way that makes an impact on those disciplines themselves.
00:14:18.21 It's not as though scientists from other fields moving into biology,
00:14:22.12 that's the proper direction of the flux.
00:14:24.27 Biology is also moving out into these other fields.
00:14:28.02 I'll close with a thought.
00:14:29.18 In his biography of Albert Einstein,
00:14:32.25 Abraham Pais said while speaking about Einstein's work on specific heats,
00:14:36.27 in order to recognize an anomaly, one needs a theory, a rule, or at least a prejudice.
00:14:41.20 And my thinking here is that mathematics gives us another way
00:14:45.07 to develop prejudicesâ€”often prejudices that are inaccessible using strictly verbal descriptions.
00:14:51.11 And at the end of the day, my belief is that this interplay
00:14:54.18 between prejudice and expectation and experimentation
00:14:57.17 is the way that we improve our understanding of problems.

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Many experiments produce quantitative results and these require quantitative models for interpretation. Phillips makes a convincing argument for quantitative biology that biologists who understand mathematical principles and quantitative thinking have another tool with which to address biological problems.

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Rob Phillips is the Fred and Nancy Morris Professor of Biophysics and Biology at the California Institute of Technology and co-Director of the Physiology summer course at the Marine Biology Laboratory. His research focuses on elucidating the physical phenomena of a variety of biological processes/systems, such as mechanosensation and gene regulation. He combines physical modeling… Continue Reading

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